In your first posting, answer one or more of these questions:
- How did the Revolution affect the social status of women?
- How did the Revolution affect African Americans?
- Do some research on your own to determine how the Revolution affected the Native Americans. Post your findings.
- Did events surrounding the military campaigns help or hinder the progress of these three groups?
- Was there anything in your reading that you found surprising, confusing, or interesting?
- Choose one of the groups you didn't already write about, and read what your classmates had to say about them. Do you agree or disagree?
- Do you think any of these groups were better off as British colonists? Why or why not?
Required Reading
Before you enter the discussion, be sure to read the related pages in your textbook. If you're using Tindall and Shi, see:| 8th Edition | 7th Edition | 6th Edition | 5th Edition |
| Chapter 6, pages 258-266 | Chapter 6, pages 239-246 | Chapter 6, pages 252-259 | Chapter 6, pages 276-284 |
The Iroquois Confederation who resided in upstate New York were decimated after the Revolutionary war by the American Troops. Tribes of the Iroquois Confederation began a civil war amongst themselves and subsequently The American forces after the Revolution ended turned their attention towards the Iroquois Confederation and burned their villages forcing them to flee, because several member tribes joined the British during the Revolution.
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ReplyDeleteThe social and legal status of women remained largely unchanged by the Revolution. While the seeds were planted for equality, the status of women did not change greatly. Later on, women would begin to demand the rights that they rightly deserved but that was not a major concern for them directly after the Revolution. They settled for enjoying the freedom from Great Britain, where they were no longer required to house and feed at the whim of British soldiers.
The social status of women were not changed by the revolution, they remained in the traditional "housewife" and "childbearer" during this time. some were given an education and but they still were not given the rights to vote or preach or even hold office.
ReplyDeleteThe revolution did affect african americans, the leaders considered confronting and considering abolishing slavery all together. many were given freedom under british rule if they decided to assist the british army in war, which also included indentured servants. slaves who also promoted independence (colonist side) was given freedom and even land bounties.
I found this chapter interesting because i found new knowledge that i wasnt informed of before. such as the specifics in the war, then just the title and date. i also learned the american technique used to win the war (hiding behind trees and ambushing the british army).
To Jasbir:
ReplyDeletei agree with your statement about the status of women they were not given much social and legal newfound freedoms, they remained in the same predicament as prior.
To: Jasbir & Naomi
ReplyDeleteI agree. The social status of women did not change after the American Revolution.
To Naomi:
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, the textbook may be dry and insomnia curing during some chapters, but it does provide interesting tidbits about history that are fun to learn because it reminds me that these people did actually exist and lived the same life we're living now with mainly the same stresses and concerns that we face. That fact can be forgotten easily when discussing history but it is important to keep that in mind when viewing past nations and their actions.
The Revolution did not drastically affect the social status of women. Women of the colonies were still confined to being housewives, could not vote, and were not very educated. Married women could not own property, and had no legal rights when it came to their children. They also had no political rights. The revolution, however, gave women few temporary opportunities. Women supported the armies by handling supplies, cooking and cleaning, and nursing soldiers.
ReplyDeleteThe Revolution did drastically affect African Americans. African Americans were considered soldiers of the colonies and some states even considered giving some slaves freedom.
To: Everyone
ReplyDeleteThe thinking of both Thomas Jefferson and John Adams surprised me greatly. I cannot believe that even after all of their “futuristic thinking,” both men were closed minded to the rights of women. The fact that Thomas Jefferson believed that women were not created for politics amazes me. I would think that a person who helped to create a document that has been in effect over 200 years now, would not be so “old-fashion.” However, it is a great example as our progression as human being.
During the Revolution, I must say that I believe the lives of Native Americans were impacted more than the previously mentioned groups because Native Americans were forced out of their home lands ot make way for the growing coloinal popluation and the War that was brewing between these colonial states and the "mother-country" - England. The Natvie Americans where caught in between a power struggle for their homes and between a revolution, and with the revolution brewing, it made their lives somewhat easier yet more difficult all at once.
ReplyDeleteIn Response to Shevana:
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you when you stated women weren't drastically affected by the Revolution, beucase the patriarchial society that was the norm in England stil had a stronghold in the colonies at that time, and the Revolution was for overall freedom not for the rights of women or any specific group. So women were not affected even slightly.I think everyone came to a consensus with that point, that women were not affected.
Though I must state, I cannot say I understand your point of view when it comes to African Americans. Yes they were affected, but I wouldn't say that they were affected immediately or even directly from the Revolution.My I am open to persuasion or even a mind opening conversation.
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ReplyDeleteThe Revolution positively affected African Americans, as they were recruited to be a part of the military force against the British, and they were treated more or less as equals in that sense. Due to this, African Americans were given a chance to show the colonists that they were deserving of equality, and some states even contemplated freedom. While it took a long time for any real form of African American civil rights to take place, the Revolution did serve as a stepping stone in the right direction.
The role of women, however, did not have any significant change. Women did not have nearly as many opportunities to assist in the war effort, and they were not rewarded for such. Women were still relegated to the household, and gained no new rights.
To Shanaj:
ReplyDeleteThanks for the tidbit about the Native Americans. That is true, the Native Americans got the short end of the stick when it came to the outcome of the revolution though I didn't know it was to such an extent as a civil war within tribes.
Original:The affects of the American Revolution had little influece on a direct affect on women and their social status. Before the Revolution , women were limited to a home base sphere. Their duties consisted of chores around the house , they were not able to vote or hold office, they could also not legally own their own property . Post the American Revolution much of these rules still applied, although the war inspired a few to fight for their rights , the process was a very slow and tedious one.
ReplyDeleteThe Revolution was one of the most important points in the history of the United States. It was a huge turning point in the fight for Freedom. Although only white males were give freedoms and rights that were fought for, the seeds of equality and freedoms for both women and African Americans were planted. Women still retained the role of "house wife" and were contained to the domestic sphere. African Americans retained the role of slaves, with a few differences. Although the roles of the two changed very little, the revolution brought with it an idea. The idea that all men were created equal, this idea stayed with America through tough times and proved to be invincible. Eventually, this idea born from the revolution turned into a reality when both women and African Americans were given the Freedoms and rights that they always had, but were never allowed to use.
ReplyDeleteShevana:
ReplyDeleteI agree with your thoughts on Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Edison, but what must be realized is that this is how they were raised. The society they lived in taught them this, and everyone was just like they were. I do not think that his beliefs should affect his influence on the country, because that was just the societal norm then.
The American Revolution affected the 13 colonies as a whole because we won our independence and became the USA. The group of African-Americans were involved. Many slaves fought on either sides feeling they could win their freedom if they did so. It turned out slavery would remain and it would be awhile before they won the rights everybody had. Secondly, it surprised me how important France was. They were more of a reason for the British losing then I gave them credit for.
ReplyDeleteThe American Revolution laid the stepping stones for the ideal of freedom and equality for both women and African Americans. Although women were still expected to remain in the domestic sphere by taking care of the household and children, and African Americans were barely given any freedoms, the ideal of equality and freedom remained in the hearts of Americans and eventually progressed to become a reality in the years proceeding the revolution.
ReplyDeleteXander:
ReplyDeleteI agree that the idea that all men are created equal manifested into what we have today , although the societal treatment towards African Americans and women did not alter much post the revolution, there was a gradual increase much later.